Post by UlrichPost by August KarlstromWell, this is the standard joke among among Vim fundamentalists. To hear
it from a guy who prefers programming IDE:s is somewhat unexpected.
Please, mention an editor you think is superior to Emacs cause I might
have missed it.
Ich hab jahrelang mit XEmacs gearbeitet, finde aber die klassische
Oberon-System-Umgebung viel praktischer.
Well I'm pleased to hear this. Apparently Emacs is magical; so
now I need not waste time testing it. Because editor usage is so
subjective, it's difficult to describe to others ?
Post by UlrichIch hab ein paar wenige
Kommandos selbst geschrieben - z.B. Umwandlung in Groß- oder
Kleinbuchstaben - und trauere einzig der schönen Darstellung von
Unterschieden in XEmacs nach. Zum Teil wird dieses Manko durch eine
Vergleichsroutine im Oberon-System aufgewogen, die
Oberon-Kommentare ausspart.
If you mean eth-Sys3, then it's in EditTools.Tool ->
EditTools.ChangeSize ? => 8 ....24
But the proper way is to realise it's in the mouse 'via your thoughts'.
You just look at your motley-private-Tool for some text which has the
'right:size-font-colour' and 'THINK-make-that-text-stretch-have-this
-appearance' and the mouse 'does-it' !
Post by UlrichEs wäre zwar gut, wenn ein Editor alles könnte, aber mir ist keiner
begegnet. Von Zeit zu Zeit möchte ich beispielsweise spaltenweise
selektieren - das kann ich aber mit XEmacs nicht (vielleicht geht es,
aber ich weiß nicht wie). Für diesen Fall nehme ich dann einen
3.Editor. Dann gibt es noch gewisse repetitive Editierabläufe, die
ich mit einem 4.Editor am einfachsten programmieren kann.
Yes, eg. increasingly inet-fetched-text has annoying/funny chars
these days, which need to be remapped to ascii/ISO like:
"a^809C" -> "`", "—" -> "-" , – -> "'" ....etc.
And like your post didn't have line-breaks at len < 80. Then
various existing [eg. Mail.CutLines 76 * ] or private commands do.
Post by UlrichFast alles editiere ich innerhalb des Oberon-Systems, aber für die
3 genannten Sonderfälle greife ich auf 3 externe Editoren zurück.
The reason why/how oberon-S3 got such a good editor,
which isa human-interface/psychology aspect, needs to be
analysed and explained, for 'deeper reasons'.
The beauty of S3 editor bringsd a dilema for me: linux & Wxx are
comparetively?sp lame, so I have to move all serious text to S3 for
'digestion'. But S3 inet tools are relatively rudamentary [eg. I've just
re-patched my News Reply facility to restore the "References:" field,
because News-users cursed me for 'breaking the thread'. Does
THIS reply 'follow the threading' ?]. So I'd like to be able to use
linux for inet-fetches, and *.pdf, *.ps viewing, [which nobody will
program for S3] and then, on the same box & immediately, be able
to use the text with S3's text facilities [editor(s)].
This idea points to a need for LNO [native oberon under linux]
support. Which is currently weak.
== Chris Glur.