Discussion:
ETHoberon for Win 7?
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n***@gmail.com
2011-03-12 22:35:46 UTC
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I had to buy a Win 7 device in order to be able to access internet
without a fixed-line.

Although inet-access has been dumbed-down to http-clik&drool, I
was able under linux, to collect the URLs off-line and auto-fetch
and save all correponding pages to file, for later analysis off-line.

Ie. to avoid the mind-dumbing live-pictures in-your-face of
normal 'browsing', one can use eg. lynx, which is available for
all OSs from DOS, linux....W32.

It's been difficult getting W32lynx set up under Win7.
I run it under 'DOS' and the longFileNames vs 8.3-format is
confusing.

Since IMO there's nothing which can replace the ETHO
textEditing facilities, I regularly have multiple ETHOs running
under linux. So I also want these ETHO facilities on this Win7 PC.

Since I've previously used DOSbased ETHO, that's my natural
choice. But I've had 'out of memory' problems, initially on Win7,
when I tried to have a *.bat which would do:--
For each line/URL in a file
<path>\lynx.exe -dump >> AccumulatingFile

Apparently oo-memory is normally fixed by 'editing config.sys'.
But config.sys seemed to be read-only on this Win7-thing.

It seems natural to use 'WinbasedETHO'; but frankly, I don't want to
waste time familiarising with WinTel technology if the old familiar
DOSbased ETHO can do it.

What version of ETHO is easiest to get working under Win7?

Can WinETHO directly access the tcp/ip stack that some Win7
application already uses, to connect to a URL?

Eg. I believe that DOSbased ETHO had its own tcp/ip stack,
whereas Linux-ETHO uses the linux tcp/ip stack.

And the DOSbased ETHO useded a serial-port-modem,
like NativeOberon did; which won't connect to my USB
Win-driven wireless-modem.


TIA,

== Chris Glur.
Chris Burrows
2011-03-15 02:09:18 UTC
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Post by n***@gmail.com
Can WinETHO directly access the tcp/ip stack that some Win7
application already uses, to connect to a URL?
I don't recall having used Oberon on Win7 before and might have only tried
accessing the internet from any ETH Oberon system once or twice in the past
but just tried it myself and it seems to 'just work' without any special
tricks or configuration necessary.

This is what I did:

1. Started Win7. (I already had Win7 configured so that I can use Internet
Explorer to browse the web).

2. Installed ETH Oberon Plugin for Windows v2.6 which Emil Zeller made
available for Win7 last November:

https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/pipermail/oberon/2010/006096.html

(The URL in his message no longer seems to work so you may need to reply to
that email to ask how to download v2.6 now)

3. Double-clicked on the oberon.reg file to put the necessary Oberon
information in the Windows registry.

4. Started Oberon and ran the network.tool. Installed the network package
(oaf file) as instructed.

5. Restarted Oberon

6. Ran the network tool, selected 'HTTP' and tried a couple of the sample
commands. They seemed to work OK. Whether or not they do what you are
looking for I don't know for certain as I am not familar with Lynx.

Regards,
Chris Burrows

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